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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.toastyfrog.net/2009/09/06/dissociative-society-disorder/comment-page-1/#comment-469</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Christian and I love the word Christian..not because of what others might have done in that name because they were either evil or ignorant, but because it means One of Christ, and One In Christ.  I am not Christ, but if I yield my vessel/ me/ to Jesus Christ and He fills me with His Spirit...The very Spirit you were expressing...of Love and Grace and Mercy...Then I am His Follower...which means His Disciple...or Disciplined by the Life and Love of Jesus Christ!  I am His and He is mine.  I grew up in a very poor area of town, and I saw many sad things, and many wonderful things by some wonderful people that were just struggling day today to raise a family and work as best they could, or survive as best they could.  I&#039;ve also lived in nice neighborhoods where the inside of the houses were evil and empty or void of all love and compassion and mercy and grace.  It is not the outside of a man or woman that makes them a failure or successful, but it is the inside of their heart that makes them worthless or of great value.  I&#039;ve seem some that would appear to be beyond &#039;repair&#039; or worthless, and they were simply hurting from whatever they had suffered from.  Isn&#039;t this also part of the story of the Good Samaritan.  He did not stop and ask if that poor fellow was worthy of receiving his help.  No, he simply saw a need, and picked him up and paid for his care.  This reminds me of Mother Teresa who said, she picked up only one person...ONE PERSON AT A TIME.  Then when you add up all those One Persons, they made a whole lot of suffering and thankful people.  I think everyone should be required to learn about Mother Teresa.  She picked up and cared for those poorest of all the poor.  They had lice, and worms and were sometimes eaten away by rats.  Did they need to lay there and die without knowing and receiving LOVE and compassion and mercy and grace?  NO!  They also were people that NEEDED JESUS!  We are to be JESUS to this dying and hurting world.  In the Name Of ONE OF CHRIST&#039;s FOLLOWERS let us LOVE ONE ANOTHER as JESUS LOVES US!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Christian and I love the word Christian..not because of what others might have done in that name because they were either evil or ignorant, but because it means One of Christ, and One In Christ.  I am not Christ, but if I yield my vessel/ me/ to Jesus Christ and He fills me with His Spirit&#8230;The very Spirit you were expressing&#8230;of Love and Grace and Mercy&#8230;Then I am His Follower&#8230;which means His Disciple&#8230;or Disciplined by the Life and Love of Jesus Christ!  I am His and He is mine.  I grew up in a very poor area of town, and I saw many sad things, and many wonderful things by some wonderful people that were just struggling day today to raise a family and work as best they could, or survive as best they could.  I&#8217;ve also lived in nice neighborhoods where the inside of the houses were evil and empty or void of all love and compassion and mercy and grace.  It is not the outside of a man or woman that makes them a failure or successful, but it is the inside of their heart that makes them worthless or of great value.  I&#8217;ve seem some that would appear to be beyond &#8216;repair&#8217; or worthless, and they were simply hurting from whatever they had suffered from.  Isn&#8217;t this also part of the story of the Good Samaritan.  He did not stop and ask if that poor fellow was worthy of receiving his help.  No, he simply saw a need, and picked him up and paid for his care.  This reminds me of Mother Teresa who said, she picked up only one person&#8230;ONE PERSON AT A TIME.  Then when you add up all those One Persons, they made a whole lot of suffering and thankful people.  I think everyone should be required to learn about Mother Teresa.  She picked up and cared for those poorest of all the poor.  They had lice, and worms and were sometimes eaten away by rats.  Did they need to lay there and die without knowing and receiving LOVE and compassion and mercy and grace?  NO!  They also were people that NEEDED JESUS!  We are to be JESUS to this dying and hurting world.  In the Name Of ONE OF CHRIST&#8217;s FOLLOWERS let us LOVE ONE ANOTHER as JESUS LOVES US!!!</p>
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		<title>By: GreyStork</title>
		<link>http://www.toastyfrog.net/2009/09/06/dissociative-society-disorder/comment-page-1/#comment-463</link>
		<dc:creator>GreyStork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should read your blog more often. :)

I&#039;m not an expert on Jesus, to put it mildly, but I do think you can (and need to) boil it all down to &#039;attitude and intent.&#039; People are imperfect, and ideals are named as such because they are usually not achievable. What matters, I think, is whether someone harbors a true and honest desire to realize the ideal, even with the knowledge that it may never be achieved. Refusing to make an attempt, however, would obviously land you in the &#039;you who are cursed&#039; category. I do believe that those who want and attempt to change society into a more benevolent entity for its less fortunate members display this &#039;attitude and intent&#039;, even if they don&#039;t wash smelly feet.

That said, it is indeed curious that those who seek to infuse &#039;Christian values&#039; into society are more concerned with imposing rules about what and who is acceptable and worthy of societal benefits than ensuring that those benefits are available to everyone without discrimination. I guess those who are so afraid of &#039;socialist values&#039; never stopped to think that they might actually be Christian values as well. Socialism is first and foremost about caring for those who are unable to care for themselves. Let that sink in for a second. Yes, you got it, Jesus was a socialist.

So, what would Jesus do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should read your blog more often. <img src='http://www.toastyfrog.net/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not an expert on Jesus, to put it mildly, but I do think you can (and need to) boil it all down to &#8216;attitude and intent.&#8217; People are imperfect, and ideals are named as such because they are usually not achievable. What matters, I think, is whether someone harbors a true and honest desire to realize the ideal, even with the knowledge that it may never be achieved. Refusing to make an attempt, however, would obviously land you in the &#8216;you who are cursed&#8217; category. I do believe that those who want and attempt to change society into a more benevolent entity for its less fortunate members display this &#8216;attitude and intent&#8217;, even if they don&#8217;t wash smelly feet.</p>
<p>That said, it is indeed curious that those who seek to infuse &#8216;Christian values&#8217; into society are more concerned with imposing rules about what and who is acceptable and worthy of societal benefits than ensuring that those benefits are available to everyone without discrimination. I guess those who are so afraid of &#8216;socialist values&#8217; never stopped to think that they might actually be Christian values as well. Socialism is first and foremost about caring for those who are unable to care for themselves. Let that sink in for a second. Yes, you got it, Jesus was a socialist.</p>
<p>So, what would Jesus do?</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
		<link>http://www.toastyfrog.net/2009/09/06/dissociative-society-disorder/comment-page-1/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Christian, and older lady, and I agree wholeheartedly with your premise about how Christians must live.  I attend a wonderful church that doesn&#039;t have the hypocritical culture you describe, but instead presses us to work for the Kingdom.   I have spent hours with very young believers with tatoos, dreadlocks, piercings, and slang that has to be translated, who are incredible Christ-followers, filled with love and insight.  

I am also trained in economics, and I also have dealt with a very sick child.  The health care plans being floated by Congress will not work.  They are impractical.  Free markets actually work, and if we actually moved closer to insurance market reform, there&#039;d be more affordable health care, not less.  People like my son, who need far more care than the average kid, along with the old and chronically ill, will be the ones who lose out with the proposed plans.  Plus, we are strapping on an insupportable debt, with this and other legislation this year, that horrifies me when I think about my children&#039;s futures. 

Why would I favor a health care plan that doesn&#039;t work? What if it sounds kind and is actually cruel?  What if the plan is cleverly packaged, but junk inside the box?    What if I know enough about markets to know that it promulgates far more suffering instead of less?

What is the political ambition that wants to pass ANYTHING is at the expense of passing something useful?  Why would I want to be a pawn in some rich, powerful politician&#039;s game when all the proposed legislation exempts Congress itself from the proposed health plans.

Yes, we are our brothers&#039; keepers, but do read about the Jamestown settlement and how the people starved until told that they had to work for their own food and couldn&#039;t live off the others.  Or read about Paul telling the congregation that if someone wouldn&#039;t work, they were not to eat.  We live in a practical world.  Let&#039;s reason together and do things that make practical sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Christian, and older lady, and I agree wholeheartedly with your premise about how Christians must live.  I attend a wonderful church that doesn&#8217;t have the hypocritical culture you describe, but instead presses us to work for the Kingdom.   I have spent hours with very young believers with tatoos, dreadlocks, piercings, and slang that has to be translated, who are incredible Christ-followers, filled with love and insight.  </p>
<p>I am also trained in economics, and I also have dealt with a very sick child.  The health care plans being floated by Congress will not work.  They are impractical.  Free markets actually work, and if we actually moved closer to insurance market reform, there&#8217;d be more affordable health care, not less.  People like my son, who need far more care than the average kid, along with the old and chronically ill, will be the ones who lose out with the proposed plans.  Plus, we are strapping on an insupportable debt, with this and other legislation this year, that horrifies me when I think about my children&#8217;s futures. </p>
<p>Why would I favor a health care plan that doesn&#8217;t work? What if it sounds kind and is actually cruel?  What if the plan is cleverly packaged, but junk inside the box?    What if I know enough about markets to know that it promulgates far more suffering instead of less?</p>
<p>What is the political ambition that wants to pass ANYTHING is at the expense of passing something useful?  Why would I want to be a pawn in some rich, powerful politician&#8217;s game when all the proposed legislation exempts Congress itself from the proposed health plans.</p>
<p>Yes, we are our brothers&#8217; keepers, but do read about the Jamestown settlement and how the people starved until told that they had to work for their own food and couldn&#8217;t live off the others.  Or read about Paul telling the congregation that if someone wouldn&#8217;t work, they were not to eat.  We live in a practical world.  Let&#8217;s reason together and do things that make practical sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Weasel</title>
		<link>http://www.toastyfrog.net/2009/09/06/dissociative-society-disorder/comment-page-1/#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>Weasel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 07:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen.</description>
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		<title>By: purplesque</title>
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		<dc:creator>purplesque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful post. As a non-Christian, I can vouch for the fact that the same unfortunate malady has spread among most of the world&#039;s &#039;other&#039; religions, including the one I belong to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful post. As a non-Christian, I can vouch for the fact that the same unfortunate malady has spread among most of the world&#8217;s &#8216;other&#8217; religions, including the one I belong to.</p>
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		<title>By: Felicity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felicity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 18:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Splendid post.

I was just thinking yesterday that I don&#039;t understand why so many professed Christians assume all people&#039;s misfortunes are divine punishment, deserved. Jesus sure didn&#039;t deserve what happened to him. Seems relevant, somehow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Splendid post.</p>
<p>I was just thinking yesterday that I don&#8217;t understand why so many professed Christians assume all people&#8217;s misfortunes are divine punishment, deserved. Jesus sure didn&#8217;t deserve what happened to him. Seems relevant, somehow.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggikaye</title>
		<link>http://www.toastyfrog.net/2009/09/06/dissociative-society-disorder/comment-page-1/#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggikaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good post. While some may see it as &#039;controversial&#039; (as you said on Twitter) no one *should*! 
I have been appalled at my family members reacting in such a judgemental attitude toward one of their own ..all in the name of Jesus! How that must break his heart. 

The young one that was the target of their judgement didn&#039;t even do something as (supposedly) drastic as a tattoo ...she simply decided, at the age of 22 to have a boyfriend and hold hands with him. (GASP! can you imagine? ...growl) 
So, then my family thought it was ok to throw such judgemental words as &#039;slut&#039; &#039;whore&#039; ... all based on Romans chapter 1. I guess they&#039;ve never stepped out of their judgemental box long enough to read Romans 2:1

I supported my niece ...which has earned me the label in the family as &#039;evil&#039;. (yes, that is true. My 7 year old niece has been told that her Aunty Peggi is &#039;evil&#039;)

People really really need to read the life of Jesus and find that while he loved ...he unquestioningly loved ... relentlessly loved ... eternally loved ...he did judge some. 

The religious know it alls ...the judgemental leaders and the prideful &#039;righteous&#039; ..those who put themselves above others because their practice of faith was so impecable. He blasted them (oh ye generation of vipers ...quite the statement!) 

I, too, find myself hesitating, at times, using the term Christian ...it&#039;s come to mean judgemental and prideful. 
It is supposed to mean Christlike. 

ok, taken up enough of your blog space. Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good post. While some may see it as &#8216;controversial&#8217; (as you said on Twitter) no one *should*!<br />
I have been appalled at my family members reacting in such a judgemental attitude toward one of their own ..all in the name of Jesus! How that must break his heart. </p>
<p>The young one that was the target of their judgement didn&#8217;t even do something as (supposedly) drastic as a tattoo &#8230;she simply decided, at the age of 22 to have a boyfriend and hold hands with him. (GASP! can you imagine? &#8230;growl)<br />
So, then my family thought it was ok to throw such judgemental words as &#8216;slut&#8217; &#8216;whore&#8217; &#8230; all based on Romans chapter 1. I guess they&#8217;ve never stepped out of their judgemental box long enough to read Romans 2:1</p>
<p>I supported my niece &#8230;which has earned me the label in the family as &#8216;evil&#8217;. (yes, that is true. My 7 year old niece has been told that her Aunty Peggi is &#8216;evil&#8217;)</p>
<p>People really really need to read the life of Jesus and find that while he loved &#8230;he unquestioningly loved &#8230; relentlessly loved &#8230; eternally loved &#8230;he did judge some. </p>
<p>The religious know it alls &#8230;the judgemental leaders and the prideful &#8216;righteous&#8217; ..those who put themselves above others because their practice of faith was so impecable. He blasted them (oh ye generation of vipers &#8230;quite the statement!) </p>
<p>I, too, find myself hesitating, at times, using the term Christian &#8230;it&#8217;s come to mean judgemental and prideful.<br />
It is supposed to mean Christlike. </p>
<p>ok, taken up enough of your blog space. Great post!</p>
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		<title>By: Not Nurse Ratched</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not Nurse Ratched</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 13:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post: well written, articulate, and most importantly expresses my own ideas. Thanks for taking the time to write it. I hope it reaches more than an audience of people who already agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post: well written, articulate, and most importantly expresses my own ideas. Thanks for taking the time to write it. I hope it reaches more than an audience of people who already agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.toastyfrog.net/2009/09/06/dissociative-society-disorder/comment-page-1/#comment-388</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe you have put into words how I feel about the current health care situation and my own personal religious beliefs. 

I have tattoos too and I don&#039;t fit in with the religion I was raised or the Christian Conservative lifestyle I grew up in.

Very good post, thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe you have put into words how I feel about the current health care situation and my own personal religious beliefs. </p>
<p>I have tattoos too and I don&#8217;t fit in with the religion I was raised or the Christian Conservative lifestyle I grew up in.</p>
<p>Very good post, thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautifully written and well said.  I would make just one point:  Jesus did not say to let &quot;Caesar&quot; take care of everyone.  &quot;WE&quot; are to do that.  All of us.  Voluntarily.   With warm regards....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautifully written and well said.  I would make just one point:  Jesus did not say to let &#8220;Caesar&#8221; take care of everyone.  &#8220;WE&#8221; are to do that.  All of us.  Voluntarily.   With warm regards&#8230;.</p>
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